Leadership is caught, not taught

Scott Shay sits down with Matt Bodnar, who is the host of a popular podcast show, The Science of Success. Described as the #1 Evidence Based Growth Podcast on the Internet.

In this wide-spanning conversation, Scott discusses the founding of his multi-billion dollar public company and the inside baseball of what it takes to build a truly massive company and then they dig into some of the biggest questions in life - how do we deal with the problem of evil? How do we merge science and spirituality? Listen here.


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